Spanish Paperwork Help
For more information on any of our horses or this web site, please feel free to contact us at any time :
By Phone: (386)344-4516 or by e-mail RoyalHorseFarms@aol.com.
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***NOTICE THIS PAGE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION!!!***
This page is our effort to help owners/breeders better understand that Spanish Side of their paperwork. We try to keep this information up to date, however we suggest you contact the LG to confirm.
First things first! You WILL need this information to continue!
1. Are you a registered breeder ?
2. Do you know your lgancce.com access code and password?
(if not please call, e-mail, write or fax the Miami LGANCCE office to get this information)
Transfer of ownership
Request for service
What is inscription?
Is my horse inscribed?
How do I inscribe my horse?
What is Revision?
Is my horse Revised?
How do I revise my horse?
Requirements for Revision.
Step - by - Step paperwork help
Stallion owners - how to fill out a breeding certificate for Stallion Owners
***NOTE: Royal Horse Farms is now offering paperwork management services to P.R.E. owners and breeders. Contact us about this new oportunity!***
1. Preporation of request for service $35
(This includes completing your request for any service inscription, revision, change of ownership etc, this fee includes all preperation, mailing, and mangement of paperwork)
2. Annual Horse Management service fee $50
This is a fee paid every year and all paperwork required for that year is included in this fee, along with preperation, mailing, and management of paperwork.
2. Horse management lifetime service fee $250
(This includes paperwork handeling from the time your horse is born, to the end of their days, we will do all paperwork for breeding and birth of the foals, your horses inscription, revision, and change of ownership, this fee is a one time payment for the life of your horse that even transfers with your horses sale.
Q: Is a horse that is Revised, also Inscribed?
A --- Yes, however once the horse has passed Revision the inscription is implied.
Q: I just purchased a P.R.E. horse what do I do now?
A:--- While a rather in depth question, you first will need to get a breeders code through ANCCE, second fill out a transfer of ownership for your horse, and then see if your horse is of age to be or has been revised. To help look at the links above to walk you through these steps.
Q: I have a gelding do I need to get him revised?
A: --- Revision is only for breeding stock, geldings can be inscribed and shown in ANCCE shows but cannot be presented for revision.
Q: How Long does it take to get a Carta from Spain?
A: --- Well, that is a loaded question, there are many factors that can alter the return time on your carta. If you have all your ducks in a row 30 days to 6 months.... However if you have DNA, codigo, microchip, marking, vet etc. inconsistencies then you may have a wait on your hands.
Q: How do I know the "P.R.E." horse I am buying is really a P.R.E. registered in the Spanish stud book?
A: --- If the horse is inscribed (see the above steps to make sure) you are safe, if the horse does not show up when you see if it is inscribed (see the above links to find out how to do this), then you may be dealing with a horse that is registered with another registry and is misrepresented as a P.R.E. There are some dishonest breeders out there that "inscribe" their foals with a US Registry and call their horses P.R.E.
Q: What is the advantage to a P.R.E. when compared to an IALHA (S) or a Foundation 'Inscribed' Horse?
A: Well first off you don't ride the papers... A good horse is a good horse regardless of what type of paperwork they hold. When you look at purchasing a P.R.E. horse you are making an investment. When participating with the Spanish Stud Book (the only REAL international registry for the Spanish Horse) you are opening yourself, your future clients, and your future clients clients to an international market. It is a fact that if you take your Spanish Carta, your IALHA papers, and your foundation 'carta like paperwork' to lets say China.... The only thing your Chinese clients will want for the future is your Spanish Carta. While your IALHA & Foundation papers may be an added bonus to put in a scrapbook should you want to display them, there is no real value to the other registries once outside the US and Canada. So you will pay more for a real P.R.E. horse, but you and your clients will be open to clientele around the world. Keep in mind even if you do not sell internationally it does not mean a future client of yours will not.
Q: I am looking at a horse to buy and it is not yet inscribed, but it's parents are both revised, how hard is it to get this horse I am looking at inscribed.
A: This is another loaded question, in some cases it can be VERY easy, in others impossible. There are many factors to consider, such as DNA, breeding certificate, owner of mare at time of breeding, etc. this is best handled on a case by case basis, if you have this problem feel free to contact us and we will help you the best we can.
Q: I was talking to a breeder yesterday and they mentioned a 'Carta Sucia' what is that?
A: This is rather a humorous question.... Cara Sucia or dirty face is a term in Spanish often used to describe some one that is untrustworthy or two faced.... this term has been slightly turned and is now used when referring to a 'carta' from the foundation... a dirty carta or 'CARTA SUCIA' a two faced carta... I first heard this term in California in 2009 at a Rodeo near LA, it was being discussed that breeders were being taken advantage of when buying horses in California. When these breeders bred them or took them down to Mexico to breeders down there they were shocked to realize that their Foundation Inscribed/Revised horses were NOT and never could be registered in the Spanish Stud Book. And thus did not hold value as breeding stock in Mexico... Because of this confusion the terms Carta Verdad (Real Carta) and Carta Sucia (Dirty Carta) emerged.